
How Andy Found His Edge: A Trader’s Honest Testimonial
Meet Andy, a dedicated member of Bear Bull Traders who joined our community looking to take his trading to the next level. With a background in trading but a desire for more structure, support, and education, Andy found the guidance he needed through our courses, mentorship, and daily live trading sessions.
This testimonial is shared verbatim, so you may notice a few grammatical errors. We’ve also removed the names of other companies and individuals not affiliated with Bear Bull Traders to keep the focus on Andy’s experience with our community.
Here’s what he had to say about his experience with Bear Bull Traders:
OVERALL QUALITY
I have been in the markets for nearly 10 years, with honestly little success. I started with XXXXX, moving on to XXXXXX. The difference between the 2 was night and day but I still didnt have a clue really about market structure; what a good trade looks like, how to form a strategy etc etc. I was still blind despite parting with thousands of dollars. My only real takeaway from both of these is a feeling of hopelessness.
The difference between what you guys do and what others do is so vast it’s difficult to come up with a comparison that adequetly explains it. I don’t know if you guys do a lot of market research into the competitions training courses but having gone through the bootcamp I don’t think theres another product like this being offered. The content in this course is so abundant it was almost overwhelming.The quality of the content was incredible but the fact there is constant mentorship through the telegram groups, the homework excercises and also the group sessions means the value for money was almost too much. There were a couple of things maybe you could have done better but these are so negligble compared to the overall intensity/quality/value/output of the course It doesn’t even warrant the conversation. I love that the emphasis right from day 1 is the production of a trade book where the student builds their strategy around a frame work set out by PCT. This is what ALL trading courses should off, its common sense, but you seem to be the only ones doing it.
COST/Value for money
The price point for this course is too low in my opinion. Way too low. If i had known what the course was going to entail I would have paid more. Coupled with the fact there is a very real chance to earn money from it through the funded account makes me think you are selling this below its market worth. I think XXXXXX was around $2500 when I bought the course. I didnt get to speak to ANYONE in their team apart from a message from XXXX asking me if i’d like to upgrade to an annual sub in the chat. They sell you the pre recordings and you are on your own. That is what your competition are offering. Why you price this at your price point is none of my business but having gone through it, I cant help feel I didnt pay enough.
MENTORSHIP
I know I touched on this earlier but it needs to be driven home. Having access to real traders,watching them trade in real time and them explain their thought processes was probably the stand out part of the course for me. I was in Carlos group and I think I would have paid the price of the course for the epiphany he gave me around week 5 after he explained I should wait for a confirmation candle after the first 5 minutes before entering a trade. That one comment has transformed my psychological approach to the 5min ORB and has without a doubt given me an actual strategy I can use to make money.
At this point I have to mention Megan aswell. The way she runs her sessions was incredible. Again, the value from these was ridiculous. She basically taught me how to read the tape. Again, giving me a legitimate tool I can use to reinforce my confidence before entering a trade. Not to discredit all the other mentors as each one has given me a least one golden nugget of information I have either used or will use in my trading. This is such a fantastic aspect of the bootcamp. If you can find a way to lean into this more in the future camps please do so as I think we all benefitted hugely from the teachers.
WORKLOAD
I was in the fortunate position I could basically dedicate my entire day to this, but I still feel this wasnt enough! I quickly fell behind in the home work deadlines (due to me taking time in the sim) as well as the webinars. I suspect I barely scraped by with 50% attendance and I had every intention of making each one! Im not saying this is negative by the way, you are giving students so much opportunity to learn. The home works are a grea touch and give focus. When Mike said in one of the opening webinars that we should only focus on one strategy I was skeptical but you were totally right. The reality is you can barely complete the work for 1 strategy given everything thats happening in the 13 weeks. I know we have access to the webinars for a week or so but maybe consider extending this time period so people can use these resources as they advance on their journeys.
TIMINGS
Your success is unfortunately your downfall here as you’re attracting people around the world so there is no easy way to deal with this but, Im in the UK so am 5 hours ahead of your schedule. This meant I missed all of the evening sessions. Most of the people in my group were European so I think we all struggled with that. I appreciate theres little you can do about the timing but maybe consider running stuff earlier in the day if possible. Kind of clutching at straws with that suggestion as there is barely any time between the mentorships and the group sessions though.
MARKETING
I guess this is my only legitimate negative point. Where the F**K have you guys been? How has it taken me so long to find you! I could have been profitable years ago haha. but seriously, i think you are sleeping on what you have here. This is a world class product and people need to know about it. Ive noticed that you maybe don’t use X as much as other educators. Alot of newer traders are hanging out there. Theres a pipeline of students sat on that platform waiting to discover this course.
Finally just to say thank you. I feel like I got the better end of the deal here guys by some margin. I set out on this course half expecting to leave the way I felt about the 2 courses I mentioned at the start but the reality is what you have done is given me a very real chance to become a succesful trader by equipping me with a strategy that actually works, so thank you and if you want me to do a video or questions about my feedback happy to help in any way I can!
See you in chat!
Andy